Session 204

SESSION 204 NOVEMBER 1, 1965 9 PM MONDAY AS SCHEDULED (No envelope test was held during the session.

(The session was witnessed by John Bradley. John is from Williamsport, PA; he is a salesman for Searle Drug and has witnessed quiet a few sessions. He has also been the subject of some of Seth’s material. Jane, incidentally, felt strongly that John would witness the session, so she was not surprised when he visited us unannounced at 8:30 PM. John told us he could stay only until 10 PM. In the meantime he had a little story to tell us.

(John spent last week making the rounds of doctors’ offices in Williamsport. One day while driving about town he felt strongly that he should return home. He felt that mail awaited him, that the letter was from his district manager, and that it concerned a raise for him. Ego-wise, John doubted the whole thing, especially so since he had not been getting along too well with his superior recently.

(But he did drive home. As he walked out to his mailbox he felt certain the letter was there. It was; it did confirm that he had been given a raise by the company. The raise was totally unexpected, he told us. John wondered whether Seth would comment upon the experience.

(See also page 11 of the 200th session for notes on the clairvoyant/telepath ic experiment, involving John, that Jane conducted successfully the last time he was in this territory. This concerned John’s business trip to Binghamton, NY. Jane wrote down 13 impressions; and John later confirmed 10 of them.

(The session was held in our front room, and was free of interruptions or distractions. It was obvious that Jane was in a good mood before the session, and Seth reflected this. Jane began speaking while sitting down and with her eyes closed; her pace was quite fast, her voice definitely stronger and more active than usual. She began speaking actually at 8:58.)

I bid you all a fond good evening.

(“Good evening, Seth.”)

My particular welcome this evening to our friend Philip. As he knows his experience was indeed legitimate, and he can expect more of them.

(Philip is John’s entity name.)

His familiarity with our sessions has made it possible for him to become more aware of the constant communication that exists between the inner and the outer selves.

I wish this evening that you had your recorder going, since I feel somewhat hampered by the slow pace that is necessary otherwise. All due regards, Joseph, for your limitations.

Now in the affair of the raise, you picked this up, Philip, first of all telepathically from the mind of your superior. You were also aware of it however clairvoyantly. In your mind’s eye you literally saw the letter and read its contents, though you were not aware of the actual action as it occurred. The original decision however was made somewhat previous to the meeting which you attended, but it was at that time not yet definite. And your behavior at the meeting reinforced your superior’s decision, and made it certain.

(This is the Binghamton meeting referred to here. John attended it on Tuesday, October 19, and it was while he was engaged in this endeavor that Jane tuned in on his activities. John clashed with his superior at the meeting, and because of his outspoken actions had no thought of getting a raise.)

It was not however your general behavior that made this difference, but a particular remark which was addressed I believe to the meeting at large; and which was a tip-off to your dissatisfaction, and which in some way was aimed particularly, he believed, at your immediate superior.

Perhaps we can get the specific remark, perhaps not, but if we do we will slip it in.

(“Not too fast.” (Jane was in a good mood and speaking rapidly for Seth. I had been writing practically at top speed since the session began. At break John confirmed that he had made a remark of dissatisfaction to the meeting at large. It concerned expense-account allowances for gas and oil, and John’s superior took this as aimed at him personally; the two men clashed on the floor, verbally.)

There will still be a connection however with another company, as I mentioned previously. And there is also an affair which will come up shortly, that will take your attention and time.

(Again, see the 199th session, in which Seth’s information on drug compa nies in Minneapolis is confirmed by John. John now laughed at Seth/Jane’s amusing reference to an affair.

([John:] “What kind of an affair, Seth?”)

I indeed anticipated that you would ask.

I am not here referring in particular to any affair that might prove embarrassing. I am referring to an affair... Give us a moment... of a family nature that has not yet developed, but that will develop shortly.

I believe this has to do with parents rather than with your wife or children, and also that it involves a financial nature. We will see what else we can get through on this.

(Jane now took a pause that lasted a minute. She sat quite still, her eyes closed, her head down.)

Give us a moment, and we will play around a bit.

We have to work this way with our friend Ruburt, though he is indeed improving. In regards to your raise, the number 3 comes up. I am trying to loosen Ruburt up here, for he is always afraid of wrong results, and this hampers me.

We will however do what we can, and explanations can come later.

(Briefly, Seth now burst out in a loud, deep and humorous voice.)

This is a test. Testing, one, two three; if you will indeed forgive my attempts at humor. The number three in regard to the bonus. This is not very clear. 3 or 300. 30 or 300. I want to loosen him , Ruburt, up in regards to you, however, for I intend to indirectly look in on you, with your permission, during some of our sessions.

I assume from the earlier conversation that we have your permission.

([John:] “Yes you do.”)

Permission, and a very airy attitude indeed. I am however enjoying myself. I will let you all take a break. No one is tired but Joseph, for I have kept him going at a steady rate indeed.

(Break at 9:15. Jane reported that she had been dissociated as usual for a first break. Her eyes had remained closed. Her voice had been stronger than usual, the pace indeed fast.

(John Bradley told us that when Seth mentioned his becoming aware of more inner communications in the future, he felt a twinge of fear. John said one of his favorite expressions has been that he had never wanted to be able to read tomorrow’s paper today. I answered that perhaps John was beginning to change his mind at least subconsciously.

(John now delighted Jane by telling her that the figure 30 is the correct one, exactly, concerning his raise—thirty dollars a month.

(John wasn’t sure what financial venture involving parents could mean, although he described a complicated tax and property and business transaction that his father-in-law is involved in at the moment in Bradford, PA. The father-in-law has a great deal of money tied up in the venture and is trying to extricate himself.

(Before the session Jane and I asked John if he would cooperate in some telepathic/clairvoyant experiments like those involving the Gallaghers recently. John would make a good subject, we thought, because he lives some distance away and Seth could tune in practically whenever he pleased.

(Jane resumed in the same good voice, with her eyes closed and at a little slower pace, at 9:25. She spoke to John.)

I believe you have another appointment.

We could have done fairly well this evening with you were you here, or were you able to remain for the full session. On another occasion we will see more fully what we can do.

The situation to which I referred was not the one regarding your father-in-law, though that will be resolved.

The conversation had to do with policy on the company’s part. But not only generally on a high level, but policy as it filtered down through the hierarchy; and a particular policy, a way of treatment.

You see, in a full session dealing with an individual, I can interweave material. Ruburt cannot follow me then and he cannot block me then. He does not indeed block me on purpose, but the results would be the same.

The situation however in the family does involve your own parents. I would say specifically your mother. The conversation of which you are thinking is the one to which I refer concerning the raise.

There will be others if you remain with the company, for much of your superior’s income is dependent upon your own, and he has only at the most two other salesman in his territory which are lucrative for him. One is a short man, already beginning to bald. And your superior himself worries about his own position.

This is a general-enough statement, but at the last meeting he had cause to wonder about it even more.

(Jane now took a long pause, sitting quietly with her eyes closed. Her pace was now, again, quite fast.

(To avoid too many notes at break, I can add some comments as the session progresses. At next break, John confirmed Seth’s statement that his superior was worried about his job. John also agreed with Seth that only two other salesman are selling well in the division. The short man who is already beginning to bald, John knows as Bill Driscoll; John told us he is a very good salesman and the only one in the division fitting that description. Driscoll is not old, John said, merely balding prematurely.

(As stated before, the floor clash between John and his superior involved expense accounts. John agreed that this was high-level company policy that filtered down to the local level.)

The family situation is not immediate, this week for example, but it is developing.

I told you that you would have other telepathic or clairvoyant experiences. I did not say however that you would be able to read tomorrow’s headlines today, so you need have no such fears. Your ego is a sufficiently well-developed one so that you need not worry but that it will set up acceptable blockages, and shield you.

Does that make you feel better?

(Seth delivered this material in a very amused manner. John laughed.

([John:] “It’s my turn to catch it tonight.” (Jane’s voice boomed out briefly.)

When your turn comes you will know it, and tonight is not the night.

When you intend to leave in the middle of a session, there is hardly time for me to light into you adequately, or to answer the questions that I think we could answer. I am not harsh with you. Indeed, I have been harsh with no one, though I have been tempted at times. And I am always hampered both by time and because of mechanical difficulties, and because we must be so still and silent.

([John:] “I have a question. A month ago, when I was talking to a female, a voice definitely said to me: ‘No, no.’ What’s the significance of that?”)

The voice was a male voice, was it not?

([John:] “I believe so.”)

And you did not recognize it.

([John:] “No.” (Seth/Jane, smiling, eyes closed:)

Then I shall not tell you. I shall not indeed.

([John:] “Was it your voice? It happened so suddenly I didn’t have time to think. It was very unexpected.”)

You see you put me, as you very well know, in a strange position. For if I say it was my voice, then I was where I was not invited to be.

([John:] “It was in a public place, and it was perfectly all right for you to be there.”)

Well, I try to be gentlemanly. While I do not try to tune in indiscriminately with those with whom I am acquainted, nevertheless my range is wide, and at times I pick up information, and I am projected to places. And so it was, and it was my voice.

But then, Ruburt has heard my voice and did not recognize it. For I do not speak like this under normal circumstances. I did not mean to intrude.

I suggest you take a break for the sake of Joseph’s fingers. If you have time we shall explain this evening. If not we shall explain another time.

(Break at 9:43. Jane was dissociated as usual, she said. Her eyes had remained closed as far as I had noticed. Her voice had been good, her pace very fast toward the end of the delivery.

(John had to leave to make a telephone call regarding business. He had decided to see if he could postpone his business appointment until tomorrow. Before he left however, he described to Jane and me a plan that he had broached to his brothers and sisters, concerning the care of his invalid mother in Philadelphia. John said this could be the family situation that is developing, and that Seth referred to.

(I might mention here a situation that John, Jane and I, and Bill Gallagher have long been aware of. This is the fact that John, Jane and Bill all have mothers who were, or are, bedridden with arthritis. Bill’s mother has died. Quite a while ago Seth remarked that this fact is one of the reasons John and Bill were drawn to the sessions; but he has not elaborated.

(John was still talking when Jane spoke up as Seth abruptly at 9:55. She was sitting down; she looked directly at John, her eyes wide open and very dark. Her voice was deep.)

My friend, you had better leave now. And if you can return by eleven, then do so.

([John:] “Okay, Seth.” (John had his hat and coat on, and left at 9:56. Jane said Seth was extreme ly well tuned in on John tonight; she hoped that he would be able to return this evening while things were going so well. Jane also said she felt that Seth had more information on John’s mother, but that she had blocked it.

(John hadn’t mentioned the episode about hearing the voice in the bar to us previously, and at break Jane and I asked him to say no more about it to us; we hoped to see if Seth could say more about the circumstances instead, should John make it back to the session.

(John did tell us the event happened about a month ago. This places it in time a couple of weeks before we saw John last time, during the Binghamton meeting affair. But then John hadn’t witnessed a session, and the voice episode had slipped his mind, two weeks ago. John heard the voice in a dancing establishment called The Elms, in Elmira Heights, which is a small town adjacent to Elmira. Jane and I have been there once, many months ago.

(As far as we know, this is the first overt experience we have encountered where Seth has spoken to another party while separated, in our time and distance, from Jane. It raises many questions if it is a legitimate experience; if legitimate, it would seem to be a most significant development. We are well aware that it could be said Seth was merely taking credit for another person’s psychic experience.

(If genuine, does this experience imply an expansion of Jane’s abilities, along with Seth’s, or does it merely mean that once others accept the possibility of psychic expansion, they too become receivers? This would imply the separate existence of Seth; he has claimed all along to be an “energy personality essence.” (This thought comes to me: Quite a few sessions ago Seth remarked that an event would occur which would bind John, Jane and I together. I searched briefly for the remark but did not locate it.

(It was now time for the 13th Dr. Instream clairvoyant test. Jane resumed speaking with her eyes closed and while sitting down. Her voice was good; her pace was much faster while giving this material than in any of the previous sessions. She used but a very few brief pauses. Resume at 10:01.)

Now please give us a moment. (Pause.)

Our friend Dr. Instream is thinking about a book. It is from his bookcase, or it has been on his bookcase.

I see a page number, 375 I believe, and a passage brings to mind hooded figures. Connotations of the Middle Ages, and of a female with a headdress that is pointed , and then a veil. I do not know, perhaps a connection here with the heroine of an opera, or medieval novel. And still speaking of the passage, a room of medieval surroundings such as a castle. These are impressions connected with the page. (Pause.)

Again a candle, but a tall one, and a floor with many designs, as of diamond shapes. I am sorry Joseph that the recorder is not going, as I feel restrained and could speak more quickly.

Perhaps this is a scene from the novel or an opera, for now there are two very tall candles, with golden holders and many shadows. (Pause.) And the entrance of a male character. Perhaps a deathbed scene, but I do not hear music, and it would seem that music would be connected with an opera. But the scene is macabre.

Is he perhaps at a play, or theater production? (Pause.)

The hypnosis experiments have not been productive these last few days for Dr. Instream, though they may have seemed so. Again a snag develops, which may or may not yet appear to him. There is something that holds him back, that he knows but does not realize that he knows.

(Jane had been speaking as rapidly as I could write. She still sat with her eyes closed, her hands raised to her face. Her voice was average in volume.)

Now, separately, I sense a framework, as of a house that is not yet fully constructed. It may have to do with a young relative of his (pause), or close friend, or someone connected with him. The house is on a hill. The framework is there but it is open, with the walls not yet constructed completely. (Pause.)

They suggest matchsticks. I sense a turnabout for him. (Pause.) An intermission now, I sense. He speaks with many people. (Pause at 10:11.)

I think his Dr. Snygg has two daughters.

I suggest your break.

(Break at 10:12. Jane reported that she was very well dissociated—far-out, as she puts it. Her eyes had remained closed. She was aware that she had given much material on Dr. Instream, comparatively speaking, in a short time.

(As break arrived we heard John Bradley returning up the stairs. He had succeeded in postponing his business appointment until tomorrow. We asked him to say no more about his voice experience yet, to see what else Seth could pick up on it. Instead the conversation turned to the fact that last week Jane was offered a part- time job as a dancer in a local supper club. Both of us like to dance, and Jane is an expert dancer. Now during break we amused ourselves discussing some of the humorous aspects of such a potential situation.

(Jane resumed at a good pace, her voice average, her eyes closed, at 10:26.)

I do indeed find the conversation very interesting. As you know I make no attempt to regulate Ruburt’s activities, and I should find it highly hilarious to find him in such a position, or positions. We will leave the matter there, with one addition: I do not approve personally. This does not mean however that I would go so far as to caution him against it.

I spoke as I did when I did, Philip, because of what the woman had in mind, which did not specifically enter your conversation.

She did not make her ideas plain in words.

I did not like the implications of her background. I am not speaking of a social background, as you should know. I am speaking of a psychic background and environment that were, and are, unhealthy and detrimental, and with which you should not become involved. I am speaking of a psychic environment only, and of a home situation on her part which has deeply colored her activities, and which regulates her relationships.

For she is grasping in a way that is gluttonous and disastrous for those with whom she comes in contact. There is a reaching out, but a reaching out which is not for the good. Again, I am not speaking in terms of any kind of morality as it is socially understood. I am speaking of emotional health, and of demands.

There is a child in the background here also, and many situations which mold the child.

My comments made you wonder, as they were meant to. There is also a man in the background here, involved with the woman, and a legal paper.

When I spoke you listened. You did not say something that you would have said otherwise.

(Jane now took a pause that lasted at least one minute.)

It would appear that all bars are long and narrow. There was a particular decoration however at the center of the bar.Ruburt now thinks of his Green Pastures, but this is his idea not mine. We will mention it in passing. It clears the air.

(The Green Pastures is the name of another bar in town. Jane and I have been there a few times, but not recently. As stated earlier, Jane and I visited The Elms, the scene of John’s adventure, once some months ago. We did not enter the bar however, but stayed in the dancing room of the establishment; thus we have no knowledge of the bar, what decorations it might have had, etc.

(At break John confirmed that there was a child in the woman’s background, and a legal paper. He heard both mentioned in a general way during his conversation with the woman, and cannot recall more details at the moment. He had not told us this consciously. John said another man was with the woman when he talked to her, and that actually he spent as much time talking with her male companion as he did the woman. John was unable to say whether, in his opinion, the male companion is the man referred to by Seth. John had not told us before this that the woman had had a male companion.

(John said the conversation he was involved in was innocuous enough, at least on the surface, but that when he head the voice speak to him within he became more cautious. He has not seen the woman or been to The Elms since.)

We will say no more concerning the family situation for several reasons, which you shall undoubtedly know in good time. The sister of which you spoke is indeed involved, but not in the precise manner in which you imagine.

You have been coming to sessions off and on now for some time, and I appreciate your interest, and we shall do what we can for you; and we have made headway on Ruburt’s part.

I will suggest a short break and we shall continue. How can you want to know the future so badly, and be so afraid of knowing it at the same time?

([John:] “Curiosity, I guess, and then knowing I will be following a certain course—”)

This is not the case, for your own expectations are the actions which mold what you call the future, and it is never static and never definite; for you can change it at any moment, as any action changes any other action. You are always free to act, but every action changes that which is acted upon, and you constantly change your so-called future; and the events that I see may indeed be changed at any time.

(“Not too fast.” (Once again Seth was racing along, as far as my writing speed was concerned. Jane’s eyes had, I believe, opened briefly a few times; her face was turning more toward John much of the time here. She gave no notice that she heard me.)

We shall go into this, for it affects you deeply, and it worries you deeply.

I do however suggest your break.

(Break at 10:43. Jane was dissociated as usual. Her eyes had been closed for the most part, her voice had been good, her pace fast.

(John thought he agreed with Seth’s statements on free will. He said he has been concerned for some years with the conflict between the idea of predestination and free will, theologically speaking, and believes his questions stem from his early school days.

(Reiterating, John told us the talk he engaged in with the woman and her male companion at The Elms, about a month ago, seemed innocent enough on the surface. The two warning words he heard so clearly within, “No, no,” had no direct bearing on the conversation of the moment, he said; yet they were so definite, so emphatic and even urgent, that he paid heed to them. The adjectives are John’s.

(John was now considering trying to locate the woman, to check up on Seth. He was joking, yet perhaps serious also. He was curious however, and was talking about whether he should really make the attempt when Jane resumed in a good voice, and with her eyes closed at 10:50.)

—like a child who is about to be burned.

([John, laughing:] “Correct, Seth.”)

There was indeed an unhealthy effect that came from the woman’s personality, and you my friend were in immediate danger.

In some way she saw you as a solution to problems, and could have latched upon you had your interest at that point shown itself in any fashion whatsoever.

There is a house, not in the western section of town, the third or fourth house in the middle of a block, in which she dwells. She would have used you quite unconsciously. But in many ways she is very strong, and you would have been driven to return. My words were a warning, and I do not warn without reason, and I do not cry wolf.

(Jane paused.)

I am unsure here. I believe she was a Catholic, and that to some extent this had something to do with her own difficulties.

(John told us at break that he wasn’t sure either, but that he thought the woman was a Catholic.)

The situation of which I spoke concerning the family may occur in February, perhaps the beginning of the month, perhaps the second.

Now, when you speak of free will you automatically think in terms of your own time sequence, for you are caught within it. Those who are not within it can see past, present and future, and the interchange of action.

Let us suppose that you are watching a movie production.

You have nothing to do with making the movie, nothing to do with the plot or the characters, yet you can see the ending, and from the action you know what the developments will bring. You in no way affected the developments within the action; nor were they predestined, but worked out by the characters involved.

You are merely apart from them, and able to switch backward or forward as you wish. Now we are speaking of a planned movie, with a plot. Now however consider another analogy, where action envelopes and changes within a different dimension. I can look in on it and see its progress, but the action develops as it will, and is free.

One dream can change the development of a personality, and change his physical course. To those of us not within your system, we can turn into that dream, pick it up in other words. But the dream is not predestined, and the dream develops because of the personality involved.

(Seth’s remark above, “turn into that dream”, involves the fourth inner sense: the Conceptual Sense. He discussed this to some extent in the 37th and 38th sessions. See Volume 1: “The fourth inner sense involves cognition of a concept in much more than your usual intellectual terms. It involves experiencing a concept completely, to the extent of being a concept completely. You do not leave what you call yourself behind; you merely change what you are into a different pattern. Concepts have what we call electrical and chemical composition. The molecules and ions of the consciousness change into the concept, which is thereby directly experienced. You cannot truly understand or appreciate any other thing unless you can become that thing. You can best achieve some approximation of an idea by using psychological time...”)

You have more free will than you imagine, for you have not only your present personality with which to work.

Do I go too swiftly, Joseph?

(“A little bit.”)

But you have on a subconscious level all the knowledge and experience of your previous selves upon which to build. Your dreams are free from the restrictions imposed by your ego, and your dreams affect your daily life much more than you know. For situations appear in them that affect your actions, and these are elements from your own previous selves. This is a large subject; but though I can tell you some things about your future, the future is not predestined, and subconsciously you are well aware yourself of what will happen, and all human beings are.

It is only the ego which seems to make such questions important, because of the restrictions of its nature.

I will here suggest a break again, out of deference to our Joseph’s diligence; and if you have any questions, Philip, I will do my best to answer them. And if you resented my intrusion, I am indeed regretful.

([John:] “Absolutely not.” (Break at 11:07. Jane was dissociated as usual. Her eyes had remained closed for the most part. Her voice had been good, her pace quite fast. Surprisingly enough, in spite of all my writing my hand felt little fatigue.

(John now told us that he knew the name of the woman in question, but did not give it to us; we requested that he wait on this.

(The Elms is actually in Elmira Heights, which is like a suburb of Elmira to the northeast. We were discussing Seth’s location of the woman’s house as he gave it on page 47, when Jane came through as Seth, briefly at 11:18.)

The house is in the northeastern section, but to the west of the location in which you met the woman.

(Break again at 11:19. The above information is correct, as John Bradley verified the day after this session. John occasionally has free time between his visits to doctor’s offices, and on November 2 he used some of it to check up on Seth, and give us the information. Without seeing the woman in question again, he located her house. He did not tell us how he did this, or give us the name of the street on which she lives. He drew a map of the location of the house in relation to The Elms, however; a copy of the map is included at the end of this session, and it can be seen that the house is in the northeastern section of Elmira Heights, as well as also being northeast of Elmira, and is west of the location of The Elms.

(Jane resumed, with her eyes shut and in a good voice, at 11:22.)

She would have used you as a buffer between herself and another male, and as a bargaining point. I was referring to her subconscious energies when I spoke of force. I was not referring to the personality which she exhibits. She would have exaggerated the slightest interest you showed in her, and an unpleasant situation would have resulted; an unfortunate one involving yourself and the other male to whom I referred. Therefore I spoke out.

Again, you see, you did not have to hear me, and you did not have to listen. But because you heard me and because you listened, the probable future was changed.

It is possible, Joseph, that there could be this evening a change in Ruburt’s features, and we shall let this go at that, for we know him too well to say more.

(Both John and I had been watching Jane as usual as she spoke; neither of us observed any unusual feature changes in her throughout the session.)

Now the man involved has something to do with mechanics. I am not sure of the age. Between, I should say, 27 and 37, though this is not precise, I know. I have the feeling she may be older.

(John told us later that the male companion with the woman was a car salesman; hence Jane’s possible associative connection with mechanics. Still, as said before, we do not know for sure whether the woman’s male companion of that evening is the male referred to by Seth.

(John also told us later that he felt the woman herself was the one who was 27; certainly not over 30, in his opinion. Her male companion was older, John said, but he did not know by how much.

(Note by John Bradley, June 8,1966: “Companion at bar with woman was a car salesman and about 24-26 years old. He is not the man involved with the woman. This man is 38-39 years old.”)

Now, Philip. Indeed when I speak of the future I do see possibilities, and speak in terms of trends of activities that may change. This is why, often, our specific dates do not materialize as given, or why events foreseen do not occur as given. For at no time are any events predestined. There should be no such word in your vocabulary, for with every moment you change, and every heartbeat is an action, and every action changes every other action .

I am able to look from a different perspective, but still I see only possibilities. And on that particular evening I saw a possibility that was not attractive.

You and I changed that possibility, and what I foresaw therefore will not come to pass; and your own action in allowing yourself to hear me speak helped change that action.

We shall try to put the session on a more informal basis, and I will be glad to answer any questions that you have, within reason.

([John:] “Can you tell me about the other man in my division who’s selling well, besides Bill Driscoll?”)

An older man than the one I described.

([John:] “What does he look like?”)

Give us a moment. Bigger than the man I described, with more hair, though he is older. I believe he wears glasses.

([John:] “With more hair?”)

With more hair, though he is older. One of the men I believe is precisely 37. The second man occasionally wears glasses. His hair is a shade of brown, though not a definite well-defined color.

([John:] “What specific sports is he interested in?”)

Which man?

([John:] “The second one.”)

I think of a game like hockey, though I do not precisely see how hockey could be involved. Perhaps it is golf, then, with an instrument of this sort. (Jane, her eyes closed, gestured as though stroking or swinging, her arms stiff.) If so however there is a connection, perhaps in younger years, with skating, as on ice.

There may be a secondary interest in a game like tennis, but I do not see anything else in that line. I feel a connection with bowling, but believe this to be a mistaken conception, perhaps on Philip’s part.

I will give you all a brief rest.

(Break at 11:39. Jane was dissociated as usual. Her eyes had been closed, her voice good, her pace fast. See the Bill Driscoll material on page 41.

(John identified the second man described by Seth as a Mr. Dudley, and said that like Bill Driscoll, Dudley is a good salesman. Dudley has brown nondescript hair, is older than Driscoll but not bigger, and plays tennis and handball. Dudley used to play golf, John said, hence Seth’s gesturing as though acting out a sport which required some kind of hitting or swinging instrument.

(John thinks Mr. Dudley’s sales are on the way up, also, but has seen no actual figures on which to base that estimate specifically. Dudley also sometimes wears glasses. Jane felt Seth had wanted to give this information earlier but that she blocked it.

(Neither John or I observed any feature change in Jane.

(Since the hour was late, John told us the name of the woman discussed by Seth: Judy Fuller. Later we found a June Fuller in the phone book, but this Fuller does not live on the correct street, either. Either Judy Fuller does not have a telephone or it is under another name.

(Note by John Bradley, June 8,1966: “Girl’s name is Judy Fuller. Judy Fuller is listed in phone book under her old address.” (Jane resumed at an average pace, with her eyes open part of the time, at 11:51.)

I will indeed, because of the expression upon your face, my dear Joseph, bring our session to a close.

We have done the best we could this evening. We could have done better, perhaps, without the interruption. Nevertheless we did well enough indeed.

There is more pertaining to our friend Philip, but for several reasons we shall let it lie for now. The reasons have to do with my judgment rather than any fear of distortion.

However our friend has developed his abilities in ways that he will not be able to close off, and that is after all not so terrible indeed. He shall not be reading tomorrow’s newspaper today, but he shall be more receptive to communications from the inner self, and his own ego shall be better informed, though this will not necessarily make it any happier.

Now we think of an episode—I will avoid the word affair—a particular episode occurring a while back in connection with Philip’s daughter, in her bedroom or by her bed. I believe late at night, perhaps when she was ill, but in connection with strong feeling on his part.

I hesitate to use the word oath or vow, but something along these lines. Perhaps a promise would be more fitting as a word to describe what I am thinking of.

Now as to the session, Joseph. I leave this to your discretion. We shall end it when you prefer. (I nodded yes.)

We then bid you all a most fond and affectionate good evening. We may indeed end up with another session before Monday, but if so we shall see to it that you do not write up all our notes. I do my best in my own way to look out for all of you, and yet I am also limited as to my actions within your system. You must often read between the lines when I speak. Subconsciously you pick up more than you realize, and subconsciously you make preparations for events of which you may be consciously unaware. I cannot spell all things out, and I would not do so if I could.

(“Good night, Seth.” (End at midnight. Jane was dissociated as usual. She said she thought Seth interrupted the material on John’s daughter, which Seth intended as another display of telepathy, because he realized the hour was late and the material too long and involved.)

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(Copy of John Bradley’s map, concerning the Judy Fuller material.)

(I was in my studio at the back of our apartment, putting the notes for this session away, when Seth came through again briefly as Jane and John talked in the front room. The exchange was finished by the time I walked back to them. It was to the effect that within three years Jane and I would have our own house.

(Seth came through with this, we believe, because he had expressed a wish that we had our recorder going this evening, and because he evidently wanted to sound out strong and loud and could not do so in an apartment house. Seth told John our house would have privacy.

(Jane and I do not usually use the recorder for sessions because it doubles the time involved in transcribing notes. We realize spontaneity is important, but our time is limited. We have considered holding just one longer session a week, in which the recorder could be used. Jane prefers two sessions a week personally, however, and many sessions ago Seth also said he preferred more than one session a week.)