Session 434

SESSION 434 SEPTEMBER 6, 1968 8:55 PM FRIDAY (Tam Mossman, of Prentice-Hall, was a witness. He had arrived yesterday to spend the weekend with us and to discuss the book Jane is doing on the Seth material. At midnight, on September 5th, Jane gave a series of impressions for Tam, speaking as herself; Tam verified the psychological content of most of them. Some of my notes, scribbled at top speed, may be hard to read:)

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(Tam was a little nervous as time for the session approached, and Jane was also. The situation was not without its humorous and friendly aspects, and the session began a few minutes early. Jane began speaking for Seth, in trance, in a voice good but not exceptional. Her eyes opened often; pauses, gestures, etc., as usual.)

Now— (“Good evening, Seth.” (Humorously:) The suspense is too much for me. I will be an anticlimax, and we cannot have that. Now... Good evening to you.

([Tam:] “Good evening, Seth.”)

Give us a moment here. (Pause.)

This is an outline. Hopefully it will be filled in at a later date. (Pause.) 1204 to 1248... Our friend then a male.... Let me give some other material here first however, in this connection.

A great exuberance and a great need. A desire to communicate, and yet a fear of being swept away. (Pause.) An expansiveness that is genuine but a fear, a fear here for the basic integrity of the self, a fear of being swept away, of not being able to hold the self in as if he fears it could bleed outward and leave you.

As a result there are bursts of communication, followed by an urge for secrecy, as if he could lose himself through these communications to others; as if with each word energy escaped from him so that he would want to hold it back in protection.

There is a delightful outer self, and it smiles and nods genially at those it meets, and pirouettes and prances. Underneath however there is a fear of this outer self. The inner self, in your present, has not yet found nor focused its true ability or direction, and so it fears itself a void and therefore often resents the energy of the outer self.

Much energy is indeed being directed outward. Within however there is a core of self-realization now beginning to gain strength, so that the amount of energy used inwardly will soon begin to match that expended outwardly. Too much was going (Jane gestured for emphasis) and not enough was coming in. You were getting enough from others. You were able to perceive and understand those connections, but you were not receiving needed communications from other layers of your own personality.

You sensed energy flowing outward and resented its flow, fearing to lose yourself. Now you are learning to utilize, receive and translate new energy from other layers of the self so that you will not feel depleted. (Pause.)

Give us a moment. (Pause.)

There has been in past existences, in your terms, some experience with what is termed occult knowledge, though it is not my term. The personality has been used to depending upon inner intuitions, and knew it had further abilities to develop now. But there was a laxness within, and a lack of inner concentration that in this life hampered earlier development.

The personality sensed this lack and at the same time was aware of an impetus. There have been three lives as a woman. There have been two previous to this as a male. Running through these existences has been two main lines.

There has been the inner sense of a void to be filled, a fear of identity escaping and running outward—my cup runneth over, and there will be none of me left, you see. On the other hand it has always been natural for the personality to turn outward in an easy manner, and with exuberance, so that in past lives we find two lives strongly devoted to the nurture of others. But in these cases the personality was filled with an inner dread, and to some extent resented those he helped. If he were out helping others, then who will mind the store? He was afraid his stock would be gone.

In two other lives there was instead the development of inner abilities to the exclusion of others, a closing down of the windows and a barring of the doors, and he would not look out and no one dared look in. He would make horrible funny faces at the window of his soul to frighten others away, and yet through all of this the inner abilities did indeed grow. He added to his stock.

He had a tendency to hoard in these two lives. Now however there is the necessity to use those inner developments already worked for, to use them gladly and fully. He has already opened up the door, and he has already begun, but barely begun, to synthesize these inner and outer conditions.

He realizes—and will more so—he realizes that the inner self need not be so heavily guarded, that his identity will not escape from him like a dog who leaves the leash.

(Pause.) Now, you see that I am a friendly chap (smile) , indeed an old dog with a long leash. Give us a moment. (Pause.)

A mystification. A sense of perplexed wonder. A member of a monastic group (Jane leaned forward) who classified and collected various kinds of seeds. Now, this group worked on manuscripts officially, so to speak, but our friend here and several others were bootleg seed finders, believing against generally held theories at the time that many questions concerning nature could be found by examining nature.

They investigated the ideas, folklore and officially-held knowledge concerning botany, and seed reproduction, and began behind the monastery their own forbidden garden. They were trying to discover the secret of heredity within plant life.

Now give us a moment here. (Long pause, eyes closed.)

This was near Bordeaux, but by near Bordeaux I mean it was the largest city. Now the order had to do with St. John, and there was a crest either belonging to the order or belonging to our friend’s family: a four-tonged fork, with a serpent above the upper portion of the handle in the foreground, and in the background either a castle or a monastery. (Bordeaux, seaport SW France.)

The monks were routed out much later from this monastery, in the 1400’s —that is, the order itself. This was later than the time when you belonged to it. (Long pause.) The name in the order seems to have been Aerofranz Marie (my phonetic interpretation) . I believe at that time the members of the order also took names that were derivative of Mary. (Pause.)

The efforts on the part of seed life were unappreciated. There was a limp in the left foot that was there always in that existence. At birth the doctor did not grab you too gently, and held you by that heel. The doctor being hardly of the professional caliber, but your mother’s 12-year-old niece. Who was at hand did the work at hand.

Now. (Long pause at 9:36.) Death (pause) , as you engaged in a skirmish. Three villagers were hunting, it seems, on monastery ground. The death was an accident. You yelled out to tell them that they trespassed, and tripped upon a rock. You were knocked unconscious, and the townspeople ran. You came to and wandered through fields at night on a far side of the monastery, and came to what seems to have been a body of water.

You knelt and began to pray, lost your balance. You grabbed hold of an overhanging branch but it gave way, and you were drowned.

Now, I suggest that you all indulge in some social pleasantries, and I shall listen. We will fill in our outline of past events as our time permits.

It is surely a sad sight to think of this poor monk, trying to find his monastery, and prayer only betraying him indeed as he falls into the stream. The results of your experiments however were carried on. They were recovered and indirectly...indirectly...they contributed to certain achievements made at a much later date, in your time.

The later development was also connected with a monk. Now, you may take a break or end the session as you prefer.

(“We’ll take the break.” (9:45. Jane’s trance had been good but she came out rather easily. Tam Mossman said: “Seth was certainly into my imaginative life; also, he has me pegged psychologically.” Tam said Seth’s data about his inner life was “especially true.” He also cited similarities between his doodles and the crest decoration Seth described.

(Jane’s pace had been on the slow side through most of the delivery. She’d had some visions, and described them as of the monastery, “or a castle,” some such large building of stone or brick. She saw cultivated fields to the back and left of this building. Beyond this were high overgrown fields, she said, with a river or stream beyond that. She also had fleeting glimpses of a monklike figure, seen from the back.

(Resume at l0:06.)

Now. Some time here: continue following the psychic trends.

Use your own psychic abilities, for they will grow as you use them, and you will be able to benefit from developments that have already been made, but that wait while certain adjustments are being made.

Now. Do not use the intellect like a shiny banner to wave from your windows. Instead use your intellect fully. You are playing with your intellect. It is a good one and you like it, but you are still not allowing yourself to use it fully. You are treating it as a fine and gaudy plaything that belongs to you, and you bring it out when the occasion seems suitable.

You wind it up like a fine toy, but you are careful of the directions in which you let it run. Now I am not saying, and do not mean, that you are narrow-minded in any way I am saying that your intellect is a fine one, but you have allowed yourself to be fascinated by its sparkling quality, and not used it thoroughly as a tool.

On the one hand you are too well in control of it. It delights you but you are like a man with a beautiful wife. He shows her off (Jane leaned forward for emphasis, eyes open and very dark) , but he does not really let her work or be herself. So you sit within yourself and say: this is my intellect: it is lovely. We shall watch it play: and you are proud of it. But you do not allow it its full penetrating freedom.

It can do more for you than you are letting it do at this time, for it has depths that you are not using. (Long pause.) You allow it freedom in terms of radius. You let it range, but you have not as yet learned to let it go as deeply as it can.

Now by all conventional standards I should say to you: but for such a young man indeed, you have time to learn. (Smile.) You will learn, and are learning, but you have dealt also with this problem in different ways in other lives, so it is not so new to you. And because you have abilities both intellectual and intuitional, then also you have the responsibility to use them and understand them well. So your intellect should not be superficially enjoyed, but deeply used.

Now. There are several fields in which you would do well—and acting is one where you would speak as well as write the words, you see. (Pause.) You may be appalled, but you would do well as a salesman, connected with public relations and business; that is, some of your abilities would serve you well in these fields.

Give us a moment. (Pause.)

If you stay in your present field you can do very well indeed, working up to rather high positions. If such is the case your own writing must then be pursued vigilantly. You would need to protect the time necessary to get it done.

With a few years’ further development, and if developments continue smoothly in your own personality, you could also do well as a particular kind of agent, dealing with writers of psychic phenomena, because of your understanding of the subject, and because of the larger knowledge of the business publishing field that you would have by that time.

Your salesman’s ability would allow you to convince publishers to buy such material. Your understanding of the subject matter would help you deal with those involved in psychic phenomena, and your humor would protect you from them.

Now. (Long pause.) I should say more to make my point clear on this matter of the intellect.

You have it too much under your thumb, on the one hand, if you will excuse my pun. You missed it. (Humorously. Seth, through Jane, had been watching Tam’s expression.) You are used to your intellect. You take it for granted and therefore do not push it as hard as someone who may be less certain of his intellectual abilities.

It will provide for you an excellent framework when you use it properly. You can make from it safe and sturdy steps to climb upward or downward, and be sure of getting back if you so choose. This will allow you to trust your intuitions more; for you do trust them to a fairly large degree but you will then have two methods, both dependable, both reliable and both of benefit.

One can be used on occasions when the other cannot, so you are doubly well off to have both if you use them both well. Full use of this intellect will also help you avoid the brimming-over feeling.

Now before the session brims over, into other allied matters, I will let you take a break or you may indeed end it if you prefer.

(“We’ll take the break.” (10:35. Jane’s trance had been deeper this time, and she was slower coming out of it. She had spoken most of the time with her eyes closed. She was very relaxed at break, and told us that Seth was keeping her half under so as to make her resumption as Seth easier; she could reach trance depth quicker.

(Again Tam said Seth knew him well psychologically. Tan had questions concerning his father and his girl, Eve and told us he felt he’d had extended psychological connections with both. Eve, he thought, has been pivotal in his life.

(Jane resumed as Seth, in an active, gesturing and smiling way, at 10:56.)

Now. Give us a moment. (Pause.)

There were three sisters. They were connected with you in three past lives, and you have met two of them.

In one life the first girl was a niece with a love of music and excellent musical abilities. You did not treat her well. The second girl at that time was a brother of yours, and the third girl whom you have not yet met, was either your mother or your wife—I am not clear on this point.

In the immediately-following life the three were sisters. The second girl, with whom you are now involved, has been four times a male, and in the past involved in business administration of various types and kinds; always as an administrator and one who gave orders.

Unless I am wrong on this time interpretation, you will not meet the third sister until you are approximately 45. Do not hold your breath while you are waiting. There have been connections and interconnections here, then, but I shall not pursue them this evening.

A relationship in this life can continue to develop along those terms, with some degree of success, but the issue is open. There are no reasons from the past that would more or less necessitate the relationship. If the relationship is not carried through, then with the probabilities as I see them now, another strong one will develop close to the end of three years from now, involving a woman with whom you will get along very well, although she was merely a third grand-nephew in the past.

In this case however certain temperamental tendencies would serve to unite you. She would have a highhanded manner, but this again according to the probabilities.

I will not now go into a discussion concerning your father, since there are several matters here, and the relationship was a fairly long one. He was a singer at one time. At another, a man who dealt with moneylending, and who somehow made this into a creative endeavor.

There is an innate love of travel that is not being indulged. There seems to be some preoccupation with speed that I do not understand. (Pause.) Either he is preoccupied with getting things started, or has a fear of going too fast, but there is an uneven pace beneath a calm exterior. Something seems to hold him back.

Now. (Smile.) I have made my friend Ruburt sit fairly quietly for some time, so out of the goodness of my heart and with consideration, I will now end our session; though I may indeed drop in a word now and then. I do not always speak when I am here. (To Tam:) You are doing well.

(“Goodnight, Seth.” ([Tam:] “Good night Seth, and thank you very much.” (11:16. Jane’s trance again was good, and it took her a few minutes to come out of it. Tam again verified the psychological content of the material, concerning all involved. Tam said he did not give us all the reasons for his verification because they were personal; but the data rang true to him.

(Seth did not return this evening.

(Seth did speak briefly the next evening however. He came through for Jane, Tam and me after a small party was over, our guests had left and the three of us were alone. Actually this was at 2 AM on Sunday, September 8. I made no notes at the time. Seth greeted us, gave a few voice effects which were controlled because of the hour and the proximity of other tenants, and expressed his willingness and capability to continue until six in the morning. This he could have done easily, but none of us were up to it.)